Q: Why did you decide to write a book set in the late 1930s and how did you research the period?
A: I've always had a great interest in the period between 1900 and 1940 because it was an era of such incredible creative combustion.
In retrospect, the pace of change in the arts and industry in the 19th century seems pretty glacial. Painting, music, the novel, architecture were all evolving, but at a pretty observable pace. Then in the span of a few decades you have James Joyce, Nijinsky, Cubism, Surrealism, jazz, Henry Ford, Sigmund Freud, the Russian Revolution, movies, airplanes, skyscrapers and the general upending of received forms in almost every area of human endeavor.
Over the years, I listened to the music, saw the movies, read the novels and manifestos, lingered in front of the paintings. So I really didn't do any applied research for the book. Rather, I tried to rely on my secondhand familiarity with the period to orient my imagination.
Q: Why did you decide to write a book from the perspective of a young woman?
A: Some writers like John Cheever and Raymond Carver seem to draw artistic energy from analyzing the realm of their own experiences - their social circles and memories and mores. I'm one of those who draw creative energy from the opposite. I prefer to put myself in an environment that's farther afield and look through the eyes of someone who differs from me in age, ethnicity, gender and/or social class. I think a little displacement makes me a sharper observer. it's that challenge of trying to imagine what's on top of the dresser - the small things that's always there on the periphery that somehow bring events into focus.
Q: Were there any personal influences from the 1930s that informed the book?
A: None of the characters in the book is based on anyone in particular. But three of my grandparents and a great grandmother lives into their late 90s or early 100s. My maternal grandparents lives across the street from me in the summers and I'd see them every day. Over lunch when I was in my twenties, it was great fun to talk with them about their lives between the Wars - when they were young adults. My grandmother, who simultaneously a woman of manners and verve, fended off marriage proposals until she was 30 because she was having too much fun to settle down. Like the book's narrator, she pushed a rival in furs into the drink before ultimately accepting my grandfather's proposal.
To some degree, these conversations (with my grandmother in particular) solidified my view that her generation was less Victorian than my parents' generation. I think the 1920s and 1930s had a certain openness that was countered by the conformity of the 1950s.
Q: Talk about the role of chance encounters in the book.
A: One of the central themes in the book is how chance meetings and offhand decisions in one's twenties can define one's life for decades to come. I think there is something universal about this dynamic, but it was certainly my experience.
In 1989, I had a fellowship to teach for Yale in China for two years. I came back from California to New Haven to spend the summer learning Chinese, but because of Tiananmen Square, Yale cancelled the program. They gave us each a few thousand dollars and sent us on our way. I had all my belongings in my car and had no idea what to do with myself. As it turned out, an old friend needed a roommate in New York to split the rent, so I moved here.
My first night in the city, I got invited to a party at the home of an acquaintance. There, I met a few people who ultimately became close friends. In retrospect, a number of careers and marriages sprang from the intersection of social circles at that party - but we certainly didn't realize the importance of the encounters at the time. We were just meeting for drinks, making haphazard alliances and cursory decisions, shaping our futures unwittingly.
Q: Do you think Katey's story could have occurred somewhere other than New York?
A: I certainly hope so. I think the book's themes of self-invention, aspiration, love and loss, are recognizable in any corner of America. But one interesting aspect of New York is that it is a leading capital for advertising, art, broadcasting, fashion, finance, food, journalism, music, publishing, theater etc. This means that every year, young people from all over the world with very different backgrounds, interests and ambitions descend on the city. They are all looking to establish connections (in the E.M. Forester sense as well as the networking sense). This just increases the odds that the person you sit next to at a dinner could change your life.
Q: Tell us about George Washington and his Rules of Cvility...
A: I'm very interested in periods where there is a density of creative invention: like the early Renaissance in Tuscany (with Massacio, della Francesca, Botticelli and Donatello), or jazz in the late 50s in New York (with Davis and Coltrane and Monk and Gillespie); or crime drama on TV in the 70s (with Kojak, Rockford, McGarrett, and Columbo). Throughout history there seem to be these brief periods when a group of varied talents come together and advance a whole art form by leaps and bounds. In some semi-competitive or cooperative dialogue, the players bring out the best in each other by spurring inspiration and risk taking, while defining new forms and frontiers. When I find a period like this I like to delve.
One of these periods for me is the revolutionary period in America. Jefferson, Adams, Washington, Hamilton, Madison, Franklin were all men of such sweeping talent and character. In an incredibly short period, they formulated a system of ideals and practical applications, which has served us well for centuries.
Intitially, I imagined Tinker as an avid student of the period. But once into the book, I happened to pull a collection of Washington's writings off my shelf, which led off with his "Rules of Civility" - and I knew right away the the "Rules" should be the primary thing that Tinker had studied. My book investigates social stratification and manners, character and appearance, ideals and compromise - and Washington's youthful list somehow seems at the heart of the whole crazy matter.
Q: The book investigates the nuances of social strata in the 1930s. Do you think the influence of class is the same in today's America?
A: I'm not a sociologist, but it seems to me that the composition of America's social strata has changed in meaningful ways since the first half of the century. The Second World War and the GI Bill were great leveling influences, in which many working class individuals migrated from their ethnic communities towards a more homogeneous middle class. At the same time, the aristocratic families of the 1920s began to abandon the outward pomp of cotillions and tails. Wonder Bread (TM) Budweiser (TM) and Chock Full o' Nuts (TM) found their place in pantries high and low (with consistency and low price being attained at the expense of differentiation and flavor). this convergence has had weird byproducts: The vast majority of Americans, spanning a wide array of economics (from the statistically rich to the statistically poor), now identify themselves as "middle class." And where in the first half of the century the struggling youth would have aspired to the narrow circles of aristocracy, in recent decades the affluent youth have aspired to the fashion and the cadences of the streets.
But having made these rough generalizations about transformation, I'd say that many aspects of 1930s social behavior prevail. We clearly still live in an aspirational society. We have just existed half a decade when virtually every tier of the American population has borrowed money in order to buy bigger cars and bigger houses with better fixtures. And we still have American youth in pursuit of success and stature, though success and stature today may mean wearing sneakers at a start-up, rather than a tuxedo at a country club.
Q: Could you describe how the book was written?
A: In my late thirties and early forties, I wrote a novel set in the farmlands of Stalinist Russia, which I ultimately stuck in a drawer. It's pretty depressing to work on something for seven years and dislike the outcome...
That book had five points of view and a series of complex events that had been roughly outlined. As an investment professional with two young children, this structure proved hellish. Every time I sat down to work on the book, I needed two hours just to figure out where I was. Worst of all, in re-reading later drafts, I often found that the material from the first year was the best.
So in launching a new book, I decided it would be a distinctive first person narrative; all events and characters would be carefully imagined in advance; and it would be written in one year. After a few weeks of preparation, I started Rules of Civility on January 1, 2006 and wrapped it up 365 days later. The book was designed with 26 chapters, because there are 52 weeks in the year and I allotted myself two weeks to draft, revise and bank each chapter.
I revised the book thoroughly three times over the next three years (mostly making it shorter); but the original constraint of a 12 month draft proved a much more effective artistic process for me than an open-ended one. Not coincidentally, the book opens on New Year's Eve and ends a year later.
Q: What have you been reading?
A: Around the time I turned 40, in reading Where Shall Wisdom Be Found, Harold Bloom's tribute to reading literature for wisdom, I was struck by how little time I had left to read seriously. I figured I was lucky if I could read one book deeply per month. If I lived to 80, that was 480 more books. With that shocking consideration as a backdrop, three friends and I formed a group to read extraordinary works of literature.
The acid test for books of inclusion has been that they have been proven by history to merit multiple readings in a lifetime. We started with Remembrance of Things Past and then read works of Twain, Whitman, Dickinson and Thoreau as a precursor to reading works of Faulkner. Then we did Cervantes and Borges before reading Marquez. Last year we read Nabokov's American period and we have now moved on to Chekhov and Tolstoy.
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Thanks so much for the giveaway--My mother talked so much about the 30's that I feel I should enjoy the period.
Thanks for the giveaway. I can't wait to read the book. It sounds really good. Tore923@aol.com
Thank you so much for this giveaway. My mother was a child of the 1930s and we rtalked about the Great Depression a lot. She was the eleventh child of a family with 12 children. What was really curious to me is that the oldest woman of the family went to speak easies and lived it up and her younger sister was a temperance union member. Wish I could have time window into their conversatuons. I really like that the author discussed the times with his grandmother.
I've been wanting to read this book but haven't gotten my hands on a copy! Thanks for the chance to win one:)
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I am soooo excited to read this book. I absolutely love this time period. Thank you!
That's very interesting that your first book was told from 5 viewpoints! I don't blame you for narrowing it down!
I love books set during this era of time.
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I really enjoyed the Interview and I'm happy that you shared your time here on Debbie's Blog. It's so nice to learn a bit about the author and the writing behind a good book, Thanks!
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Thank you for the in-depth interview. This period is of interest to me, as a way of understanding what my parents experience as they grew up.
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Thanks for a chance to win a copy!
Sounds like a good read, and I'm very interested in it. Thanks for this chance.
I love stories that are set in the 1930s and this one sounds intriguing! I'd love to give it a read.
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